U.S. Report: Putin Ordered Effort to Help Trump, Hurt Clinton

The report, for the first time, explicitly tied Putin to the hackings

WASHINGTON โ€” Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a hidden campaign to influence America’s presidential election in favor of Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, U.S. intelligence agencies declared Friday in the government’s first formal allegation supporting sensational claims that Trump and his supporters have staunchly resisted.

The intelligence report, an unclassified version of a more-detailed classified account given earlier to Trump, the White House and congressional leaders, withheld the government’s evidence to back up its assertions.

Trump, in a brief interview with The Associated Press, said he “learned a lot” from his discussions with intelligence officials, but declined to say whether he accepted their assertion that Russia had meddled in the election on his behalf.

“It was a really great meeting, I really like those people a lot,” said Trump, who has challenged the intelligence community since winning the election. “I learned a lot and I think they did also.”

Trump would not detail what evidence he was presented with, saying only that he learned “a lot of confidential things.” Because Trump is not yet president, he is legally constrained from revealing classified information.

In an earlier written statement, Trump said it was clear Russian email hacking did not deliver him the presidency.

The unclassified version of the intelligence report was the most detailed public account to date of Russian efforts to interfere with the U.S. political process, with actions that included hacking into the email accounts of the Democratic National Committee and individual Democrats like Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta. Russia also used state-funded propaganda and paid “trolls” to make nasty comments on social media services, the report said. There was no suggestion that Russia affected actual vote counting or tampered with ballot machines. President Barack Obama requested the report last month and wanted it completed before inauguration day.

The report, for the first time, explicitly tied Putin to the hackings, called it the “boldest effort yet” to influence a U.S. election, and said the Russian government provided emails to WikiLeaks โ€” something the website’s founder, Julian Assange, has repeatedly denied. The intelligence agencies also said Russia will continue to try to influence future events in the U.S. and worldwide, particularly among U.S. allies.

Since Election Day, the intelligence agencies said, Russia has launched a “spear-fishing” campaign to try to trick people into revealing their email passwords, targeting U.S. government employees and think tanks that specialize in national security, defense and foreign policy.

The report lacked details about how the U.S. learned what it said it knows, such as any intercepted conversations or electronic messages among Russian leaders, including Putin, or about specific hacker techniques or digital tools the U.S. may have traced back to Russia in its investigations.

Exactly how the U.S. monitors its adversaries in cyberspace is a closely guarded secret, since revealing such details could help foreign governments further obscure their activities.

The unclassified version included footnotes acknowledging that it “does not include the full supporting information on key elements of the influence campaign.” It said its conclusions were identical to the classified version, which was more detailed.

The unclassified report said the Russian effort was both political and personal.

“Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton and harm her electability and potential presidency,” it said. “We further assess Putin and the Russian government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.”

Putin most likely wanted to discredit Clinton because he blames her for inciting mass protests against his regime in late 2011 and early 2012, and because he resents her for disparaging comments she has made about him, the report said. It said the Russian effort was the “boldest yet” intended to affect a U.S. election.

The report was released shortly after intelligence officials finished briefing Trump โ€” a move probably intended to bolster the intelligence findings against pushback from the president-elect.

Trump could use the lack of supporting details in the public version to fuel his dismissiveness of the findings, even though he has now been briefed on the classified portion.

Trump has been dismissive of the intelligence agencies’ claims of Russia’s involvement for months, long before he saw the classified information Friday.

Just hours before he was briefed, Trump dismissed the assessment and told The New York Times the focus on Russia’s involvement is a “political witch hunt” by adversaries who are embarrassed they lost the election. “They got beaten very badly in the election,” Trump said. “They are very embarrassed about it. To some extent, it’s a witch hunt. They just focus on this.”

After finally seeing the intelligence behind the claims of the outgoing Obama administration, Trump released a one-page statement that did not address whether Russia sought to meddle. Instead, he said, “there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election.”

The top U.S. intelligence official, James Clapper, told Congress on Thursday that intelligence agencies had no way of gauging what influence this meddling had in the outcome of the election. It was unclear Friday what evidence Trump had to support his claims.

As Trump met in New York with intelligence officials for his briefing about Russia’s campaign, Congress tallied the Electoral College votes, officially confirming Trump’s November victory.

Trump acknowledged in his statement that “Russia, China, other countries, outside groups and people” are consistently trying to hack U.S. networks, including the Democratic National Committee’s.

He said, as did the intelligence report, that “there was no tampering whatsoever with voting machines.”

Trump said that as president he would appoint a team to develop a plan to “aggressively combat and stop cyberattacks.”

Before the intelligence agencies completed their assessment, Obama announced sanctions against Russia late last year. Trump has not said whether he will undo them once he takes office.

  • Fast

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  • Fast

    Will John McCain protect America from Trumpโ€™s strange affinity for Putin? Sad ๐Ÿ’ฅ John ๐Ÿค” has to deal with this Idiotic freak show โ˜ ๏ธ Hanoi Hilton ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Now this ๐Ÿ’ฉ

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-mccain-russia-20170106-story.html

    • McCain is an unhinged Cold War dinosaur who jokingly sang about bombing Iran. He needs to retire and live out his remaining days yelling at children to get off his lawn.

      • Caddisfly

        So instead of actually admitting that the Russians tried to influence the election because they clearly have a preference for one candidate over the other, does not bother you. It is easier to attack the people questioning this than it is for you to question why the Russians wanted trump so badly as to risk a full scale diplomatic crises had Clinton won. Back in the 1930’s Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh and other notable people supported Hitler even when it became apparent what kind of a monster he was, in my opinion they should have been lined up against a wall and shot. You are a trump apologist and a Russian appeaser and it is very apparent that you are a traitor to this country. The fascist disease is spreading in this country and it needs to be squashed like the vermin it is.

        • Snowbird

          Hmmm, what should have happened to clinton when she allowed the sale of 20% of our uranium to Rosatom, a russian company, and then the clinton foundation received millios shortly thereafter,.? Or what should have happened to Bill when he allowed Loral corporation who contributed heavily to his campaign, to transfer gyroscopic missile technology to Red China.
          I hope you agree they should be along that same wall?

          • Gators

            Don’t forget them stealing the White House furniture and china, now if want to see real bozo’s look at them.

          • Richard Jones

            “now if want to see real bozo’s look at them.”

            Another wonderful use of the English language from the drug dealing a$$Hole that constantly brags about how smart he is.

            GATORS = DOUCH*BAG.

          • Gators

            wow more potty mouth, do you’re friends talk the same as you. You can’t argue a point, but you can throw crude remarks out, I bet your group of friends are really class-less…sounds like I hurt your Itty Bitty Feelings.

          • tumbleweed

            sigh………..if only facts were checked. Would sure eliminate some embarrassing posts. “http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-stole-white-house-furniture/”

          • Gators

            you are wrong dumpster breath…..just he facts jack!
            http://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/the-clinton-furniture-flap/

          • tumbleweed

            checking facts for what you post is entirely your responsibility. I’d suggest you do this to prevent making a fool of yourself in the future.

          • Snowbird
          • tumbleweed
          • Snowbird
          • Snowbird

            You should check facts before you assume someone else has not
            Both committed treason and should get the appropriate reward

          • tumbleweed

            wrong. facts are not considered facts if they’re untrue. Maybe better if you check your sources. http://www.snopes.com/clinton-foundation-scores-higher-as-a-charity-than-the-red-cross/

          • Snowbird

            Snopes is a left wing site, fact is she could have said no but did not. She then received millions for her crime family
            If snopes is correct, only the president could have vetoed, he did not, therefore committed treason and should be against the wall in hilldebeasts place

          • Snowbird

            All fact, google it

          • tumbleweed

            Clinton Foundation is a charitable foundation, not to be confused by the Trump Foundation, which is a scam and used for their own personal uses. Difference of night and day.

          • Snowbird

            ROTFLMAO, yeah real charitible to Bubba and Hilldebeast!!!!

        • I don’t care whether the Russians tried to influence the election. We have been doing the same thing for decades to influence elections in many countries. Our mainstream media used every trick in the book to influence the election for Hillary, for more than anything the Russians did.

          I only care that they did not manage to tamper with the actual voting process and count, which they did not.

          You apparently see the Russians as some sort of Cold War existential threat just as Hillary did and used Putin as her bogeyman. The real threat to Russia and us and the world is Islamofacism and worldwide caliphate. As much as it pains you to imagine peace with Russia, they will be our ally in the fight to defeat this monstrosity.

          • Edgar

            If this post doesn’t help you understand Caddisfly you may have drank to much of the cool-aid. Just wonder how much Saudi money was sent to influence the election for Hillary.

          • Rhett the Butler

            Tell us about T Rump’s projects in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere in the region.

  • Rhett the Butler

    You can read the unclassified report here, 25 page pdf:

    https://t.co/dyn5JQx8LK

  • taxpayer22

    Blaming the Russians is like blaming the motel room for getting caught with a prostitute..

    Michael Moore is blaming a spoon for making him fat.

    • Rhett the Butler

      Denying the results of the investigation is like believing the moon landing was shot on a Hollywood sound stage.

      • Snowbird

        Even the intel community says it did not alter the election

        • Rhett the Butler

          That’s not what they said. Read again.

          • Snowbird

            Actually it does. It did not alter any vote tallies. Any conjecture of it changing peoplses opinions is merely conjecture absent fact.
            Actually I do hope it changed some cots against her since she is the more corrupt of the two bad choices we had

          • Rhett the Butler

            Indoctrination relies on repetition.

            https://twitter.com/GregMitch/status/817931782540689408

          • Snowbird

            Now you are starting to understand !! Im proud of you!!! Stating the same lies over and over, like AGW, indoctrinates people into believing that lie. Now if you could only find a place to deprogram yourself, your eyes would open to the fact that you and many others have been fools to believe such a ridiculous hoax.
            Youre making progress Rhett, maybe someday you can grow up and have a real job

          • Rhett the Butler

            AGW is scientifically valid and happening, you just prefer to whistle past the graveyard.
            I’m quite content with the real job I have, thank you very much.

          • Snowbird

            No, climate change is scientifically valid and happening, always has, always will, even the mRtians know that.
            The A part, not so much, and you are drinking the government funded, agenda driven studies of computer models which are faulty, while ignoring the multitude of real scientists who say it is not anthropogenic but are brutally, viciously suppressed by their climate alarmist bedwetter colleagues..
            Tis you that plays the harp whilst Rome burns, and ignores reality

          • Rhett the Butler

            Rightwingnut talking points are all you have. SAD!

          • Edgar

            Haha what do you call the crap you post. I love you Rhett, your hypocrisy know’s no bounds!

          • Rhett the Butler

            You mis-used that apostrophe, Eddie.

          • Snowbird
          • Rhett the Butler

            Movie from climate change deniers is hardly a compelling counterpoint, it is merely expected, and tragic.

          • Snowbird

            Yeah, al gores movie was terrible and a complete lie

          • Rhett the Butler

            Didn’t watch it, either. Neither did you.

          • Snowbird

            Watched both actually. But , contrary to you, i tend to look at both sides of an issue rather than dismiss one out of hand. Its called intellectual honesty, but your cognitive disonance precludes that

          • Snowbird

            Actually i watched both. Unlike you, i examine both sides of a topic before coming to an informed opinion. Its called intellectual honesty, something you are unfamiliar with, being a shill and all.

          • Rhett the Butler

            Sure you did.

          • Snowbird

            Believe what you will, self delusion is your forte, solace and refuge

          • Rhett the Butler

            You’re projecting again.

      • Gators

        You mean it wasn’t. Geez news to me.

        • Rhett the Butler

          this is my shocked face.

          • Gators

            Why again no good response from you..

          • Rhett the Butler

            It’s a shame you didn’t learn syntax and punctuation while you sat there using your pinhead for a hat-rack.

          • Gators

            I’m not perfect like U. get it. I have a good job, and it helps people, and U cannot stand it. So you pick on things, that mean nuting, and U think U caught me, like I don’t know U’r tricks. I’m not writing a thesis here, but it U want to bee the grammer sheriff go ahead “Make MY Day” a famous line from a movie…U Dig!

          • Rhett the Butler

            LOL!

          • Gators

            I would love to make fun of your job, but i’m a coward and have not backbone to say…LOL

          • Rhett the Butler

            You talk like Tarzan.

          • Gators

            Me like Tarzan…

          • Rhett the Butler

            Yes, yes you are.

  • I am Gatekeeper

    The Russians made 60 million Americans vote for Trump. Assumptions aren’t facts. As with all the lies coming from the Kenyans lackys….these 3 ladies want to know………

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6_eWWfNB54

  • Caddisfly

    Whether the Russian hacking tilted the election or not is still up in the air, the question we as Americans need to ask is, ” why did Putin risk so much to try and help trump become President ” ? What exactly was in it for Putin, and what was he trying to accomplish. It should concern all Americans as to why our biggest adversary would try and fix the election to gain advantage from who is elected. If you do not have a problem with this do not ever call yourself a patriot or even an American, because in your thoughts and actions you have proven yourselves to be traitors to this country.

    • disqus_123ragnorok

      How did Putin risk anything?…what, “red-line” Obama would sanction him?!?
      Obama is a sad joke, and has weakened America.

      • disqus_123ragnorok

        P.S., Obama has given literal “aid and comfort” to the enemy, i.e, all of the muslim “freedom fighters”….
        ( what does that make him?)

        • Caddisfly

          Grasp for a few more straws, you might eventually catch one, I doubt it though. You are just another drumpf apologist.

          • Edgar

            If saying that makes you feel better. You forgot to throw in a racist accusation. Grasp a few straws for yourself.

          • Caddisfly

            You will never see a racial post from me, now going after someones intellect is another thing. Cognitive and critical thinking seem to be something that is missing from the rightwing.

          • Perrico de los Palotes

            No, Caucasians are more generously endowed with intellectual capabilities than dark races. East Asians beat us ever so slightly. It’s just a fact. Look it up anywhere. Even that homosexual Rhett knows this.

          • Rhett the Butler

            Your comment disproves your assertion.

            Still not gay.

          • Caddisfly

            I don’t buy that because of all the inbreeding by the white supremacists in different parts of the country. I mean you and your family are a perfect example of this.

          • Gene Dziza

            Grasp for a few more straws?? Pretty bold talk for a party that is sitting on the sidelines. Democrats need to grasp for a life preserver.

            If Trump continues to bully companies into saving American jobs, you’ll need a boat.

          • Rhett the Butler

            The Carrier story turned into a half-truth at best, and it more a matter of what Indiana did than anything T Rump did. In the meantime, another operation a mile down the road (and T Rump knew about it) shut down and 300 jobs went to Mexico.
            Softbank’s plans with Sprint (5000 jobs) was announced in April 2015 along with the 50 billion dollar investment plan. Ford’s plans were changed in-house, not because of T Rump. So what jobs has he actually saved?

          • Gene Dziza

            This guy’s not even President yet. You guys like CNN, right?

            http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/03/news/economy/ford-700-jobs-trump/index.html

          • Rhett the Butler

            From the article:
            “However, he stressed Ford did not do any sort of special deal with the president-elect.
            “We didn’t cut a deal with Trump. We did it for our business,” Fields told CNN’s Poppy Harlow in an exclusive interview Tuesday.”

          • Gene Dziza

            It said they did it because of the policy’s Trump is creating. They know he he may tax the crap out of them at the border too. Think about it, spend 1.6 billion to take advantage of $3.00 labor, only to lose it in a border tax. Ya, they did it for their business all right. Trump is threatening more companies and doing more to save American jobs BEFORE he takes office than Obama did in 8 years. He’s letting them know there will be a big price to pay, if they export jobs. Its about time someone did it.

            He’s giving labor hope of keeping their jobs from being exported and he is already achieving some success, before he takes office.

            I’m surprised you’re not supportive of that Rhett.

          • Rhett the Butler

            He’s picking winners and losers. I thought Goopers were opposed to that. When he lies about Boeing and the cost of the new Air Force Ones (that he probably won’t fly in) and creates large movement in the stock price that is a dangerous and irresponsible person. Same with his comments about Lockheed-Martin.

            Then he threatens Toyota when they announce their plans for a plant in Mexico. Toyota is a Japanese car maker. WTF?

            Obama had 82 straight months of job creation, 13 million new jobs in his 8 years in office. The DOW was 7949 when he was sworn in, now it’s around 19,800.

            T Rump and the Goopers want to add another 9 Trillion dollars to the national debt with their budget policies, one Trillion of that will come from eliminating Obamacare. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation 75% or Americans support Obamacare.

            Keep following your Judas goat.

          • Rhett, let’s be honest about Obama’s job creation even though it may stir your cognitive dissonance:

            While the Obama administration is prone to citing the 10 million jobs
            added to the economy over the past eight years, 95 percent of those are
            temporary, contractual jobs or part-time employment. Part-time employers
            are not obligated to provide any benefits for their employees, so when
            an employee gets sick they can either go to work or lose that dayโ€™s
            wages.

            https://www.rt.com/usa/371329-obama-freelance-contractors-job-growth/

          • Rhett the Butler

            RT is wholly funded by the Kremlin. Keep promulgating that authoritarian propaganda.

          • I can play that game. Your source is propaganda too. There. Just like on the playground, right?

          • Rhett the Butler

            You’re the responding with a playground reply.

          • Snowbird

            Actuallylatest poll shows 75% want obamacare repealed job creation has been pitiful, part time, low wage and he had nothing to do with stock market. Toyota might be a japanese company but sells most of their cars here so its only right they bulid them here or in Japan, but not Mexico and expect to sell here without a penalty
            He was right to call out Boeing and Lockheed and every other company. They have agreed to lower their prices now, and you are right, the new Air Force one wont even be ready until hes out of office so it doesnt benefit him at all.
            Obama has done none of this.

          • Rhett the Butler

            Quire the contrary. A recent KFF poll show that 75% of Americans want Obamacare kept or expanded. 855,000 manufacturing jobs were created among many other high paying jobs. If the Prez was a Gooper you people would be praising the Prez to high heaven if the Markets were doing this well. If corporations would hire people for full-time jobs instead of hiring part-time to avoid providing benefits it would go a long way toward improving the lives of all Americans.

            You have a highly dysfunctional understanding about where Toyota can build its cars vs have a tariff applied to them.

            Boeing and Lockheed was just performance art. The new Air Force Ones were NEVER going to cost $4 billion.

          • Snowbird

            A recent newsmax poll showed 70%

          • Rhett the Butler

            Of course a rightwingnut website is going to show that result. It serves their anti-Obama/anti-ACA agenda. I’ll bet it is one of those polls like what the Beacon uses. Those polls are the least scientific and least reliable polls of all because participants are self-selected. People with a bias against something are going to vote against that something in droves. People who visit Newsmax are, by nature, opposed to Obama and ACA. Duh.

          • Snowbird

            Your poll, my poll, polls are never right anyway. Just ask Hillary

          • Rhett the Butler

            I’m gonna believe KFF polls because they have a multi-year trend line long before I’m going to believe any political polls that happen one year out of every 4 years.

          • Snowbird

            Ok

    • Snowbird

      I agree with you.
      IF he did it
      The information was very illuminating though about the corruption in the DNC and the Hilldebeast herself though

  • disqus_123ragnorok

    How interesting, all the lefties loved communism before…..lol

    • Joel

      Russia isn’t communist. So what’s your point?

    • Rhett the Butler

      Putin apologist.

  • Joel

    Good buddy Putin has a KGB background. He will help Trump set up a real fine intelligence organization.

  • Rhett the Butler

    If Clinton had won and we learned Russia nudged the needle in her favor, the US would be held hostage by the GOP until we had a new election.

    Instead, weโ€™re held hostage by a pathological narcissist & his Russian blackmailers.

    • Perrico de los Palotes

      Where’s your proof for this insane assertion?

      • Rhett the Butler

        I asserted nothing.

        • Perrico de los Palotes

          You are what you assert!

          • Rhett the Butler

            Huh?

        • Snowbird

          In other words a biased opinion

          • Rhett the Butler

            And yours aren’t?

    • Snowbird

      Instead of a pathological liar, narcissist and her russian bankrolllers (CCF)

      • Rhett the Butler

        You need to worry about the Chinese and Russian bankers T Rump is involved with plus the other 150 entities to whom he owes money.

        • Snowbird

          Not worried at adll, would have been more worried about the favors clinton would have owed from all those foreign entities she and bubba took money from on the hope of futute favors

          • Rhett the Butler

            Then you’re a Quisling. Are planning on learning Russian or Chinese?

          • Snowbird

            AnD you doe t understand the word quisling “butler” i see no occupying force here.
            Dont you have an ashtray to cleN, door to answer, or silver to polish for the rich much more accomplished man than you. THAT IS IF YOU ARE A BUTLER.
            Servants should know their place

          • Rhett the Butler

            Lame.

          • Snowbird

            Steeeerrrrike!!!!

  • Gene Dziza

    Democrats can keep blaming Putin. It’s an excellent distraction from analyzing why they lost the White House to Donald Trump, lost the Majority in the Senate, allowed Republicans to maintain the majority in the House, and gave the Republicans the most Governors since 1922, all after what was a dreadful mid-term for them.

    Democrats need to fix their party and quit blaming Russians for their problems.

    • Snowbird

      Exactly

  • I am Gatekeeper

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    • Gene Dziza

      That’s hilarious. Democrats really stunk this election up. Hillary was a horrible candidate. I couldn’t believe all the Democrats were afraid to challenge her, being “The Chosen One”, except for a Senator from Vermont that no one had heard of.

      Now, they’re on the verge of nominating Keith Ellison to DNC Chair, which I think is a dumb move politically, and they retained Pelosi as Minority Leader. Does anyone even like her?

      You hard core Democrats should be rallying to replace your current brain trust.

      • Tom Clark

        Please explain why Ellison would be a poor choice, he is a true Progressive who not only supports the working person, but is strong on social issues, and as you said is new blood into the leadership. Just what could it be that you find him to be a poor choice, oh yeah, he has the wrong religion.

        • Gene Dziza

          I didn’t say he’s a bad person, I said it’s a dumb political move. Did you not notice the election results? I think Democrats have lost the middle. They need to take a step to the right, in my opinion. They are losing American working families. Keith’s not going to take them there.

          • Tom Clark

            I see it differently, the way I see it is this, the Democratic party has lost it’s way, it used to be the party of the working person and the oppressed, now it is just a party made up of different special interest groups funded by Wall Street and the big banks.. Hillary Clinton made the decision that she could be elected without the support of the working people, she calculated that she had enough support from the liberal professional class (neoliberals), the old line feminists, Black’s, Hispanics and the LGBT community. She also talked down to the millennials who are the future of the Progressive movement. She ran as bad of a campaign as possible and anyone associated with it should be removed from any position of power within the party. Ellison has strong union support and is one of the people along with Tulsi Gabbard who will resurrect the party. It would be folly for the Democrats to move once again towards the middle, they need to get back to their New Deal past, this will bring the working class and millennials out to vote.

          • reggiewhitefish

            Well put. Democrats abandoned workers under Bill Clinton and had relied on residual allegiance from their previous support to get a declining portion labor’s votes ever since. When Trump said he would renegotiate trade agreements to protect our workers, it was the first time since Clinton’s “third way” centrist policy that any nominated candidate from either party had addressed workers plight.

            By ignoring the working class (85% of the population) Democrats doomed themselves to decline….and Trump has a real opportunity to get labor’s support and make the Republican party ascendant for decades. But big money remains the driving force in both parties.

            Unless Democrats (or Republicans) move substantially to the left, and away from big money’s influence, we will continue to alternate between parties as whichever party is in power at election time will lose because neither represents, nor has the support of, the huge majority of voters. Pent up frustration with this situation is the mother of both the tea party and the occupy movement.

          • Gene Dziza

            I agree with a lot of that Tom and that is certainly the way the Democrats are moving, away from center. That certainly works for me. The further away from center they get, the more they are diminishing their relevance.

            Trump may not get the union leadership, but he has the union members. While guys like Ellison will be talking about workers rights and strong unions, Trump will be saving worker’s jobs. Workers are smarter than Democrats give them credit for.

            Democrats are suffering from some intellectual arrogance. Bill Clinton is one of the most brilliant political minds in my lifetime. Remember his “I Heard You” speech after a disappointing mid-term? After Obama’s disappointing mid-term, he and the Democratic party communicated to the voters that they were too stupid to get the vote right and they’re still saying it. That’s intellectual arrogance and it is diminishing their ability to affect change.

            But, like I say, carry on. Its all working for me.

          • Tom Clark

            In 1928 the republicans had the Presidency, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and a large majority of State Houses and Governors, sound familiar. But the problem is they screwed things up so badly that it ushered in 50 years of solid Democratic control, which turned this country into a semi-Socialistic state. The great advancements in social and education pushed this country into being the world power that it is. Social Security, medicare, medicaid, voting rights act, clean water act, clean air act, endangered species act, Veterans education, low income housing, food assistance programs, universal kindergarten, the list goes on and on, all thanks to Coolidge, Harding and Hoover. The only good I see coming out of a trump presidency is that is pushes the Democratic party back to where it should be, protecting the working person, poor and disadvantaged from the ultra wealthy, who think of us as just plebes, that they can do with as they please. I see a lot of parallels between the early 1930’s and today, it will be rough for a while but this adjustment is needed to shock the American people into setting our ship of state aright.

  • geraldcuvillier

    The democrats seem to have forgotten when Bill Clinton took money from the Chinese during his campaigns. If that is not foreign influence, what is>

    • donho1116

      You really are one sic dude!

  • donho1116

    Had no idea there were so many traitorous and cowardly drumpf supporters in the Flathead, probably not a single one of them, and the same as cowardly draft dodging drumpf, ever served or defended our great country in any manner or way, but now read their commie inspired comments, and their lack of honor and patriotism is for all the reading public to view!

    • Gene Dziza

      You do make a good point Don, and I will agree that Obama absolutely did the right thing with taking actions against Russia, no doubt about it.

      Going forward, I do like that Trump has suggested we wage peace with Russia. I’d like to see a better relationship with China as well. It would make for a better world.

      • Rhett the Butler

        Russia doesn’t want peace, it wants domination of its long-time rival. Putin is old style KGB and he hasn’t gotten any mellower.

  • I am Gatekeeper
  • I am Gatekeeper
  • I am Gatekeeper
  • Despite more than a year of 24×7 negative media barrages and propaganda against Trump from Hillary’s mainstream media and establishment GOP, Trump won the election fair and square.

    Like spoiled children, Democrats and progressives desperately seek a scapegoat because they cannot face the fact that they picked an unelectable candidate named Hillary Clinton.

    Keep it up, Dems. This election just keeps getting better and I am growing fat on popcorn.

    • donho1116

      Why does your brain not grow on pop corn, nothing gets to it evidently!

      • Did you have a counter-argument or do you just fling poo?

        • donho1116

          poo lives in citizen d,so what else is new?

          • I see your fellow scatologist Rhett upvoted your scat throwing. Glad they installed high plexiglass walls on your enclosure so we can safely enjoy pointing and laughing at you.

    • Rhett the Butler

      “negative media barrages and propaganda against Trump from Hillary’s mainstream media and establishment GOP” because the media NEVER EVER said anything on a daily basis about emails and Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi.

      • Perrico de los Palotes

        Yeah, they constantly said how it wasn’t her fault. They brought it up constantly for the express purpose of exonerating her every single time.

        • Rhett the Butler

          Except they didn’t.

    • Caddisfly

      Progressives know we lost because the corrupt DNC forced Clinton on us, had it been a real Democrat all the slanted press, Russian spying and drumpf race bating would not have mattered because it would have been a 10 million vote win instead of 3 million and the electoral college would have been a landslide for the Democrat. Go ahead and keep eating that popcorn, just be careful not to choke on it when the truth of all this comes to fruition.

      • reggiewhitefish

        Exactly. If we can get control of the party away from the sellout centrists, the public will have a choice between philosophies. Not just Republican and Republican light.

        In 20 years of trying nard to find ANY TIME Julian Assange lied, the U.S. and other countries have failed. However we do know that after Cheney strong armed our intelligence professionals they lied and embraced the illegal invasion of Iraq that our Republican leadership wanted.

        It is much easier for me to believe wickileaks than the known liers in our pliable spy agencies. We have seen no evidence that there even was a hack… evidence points to a leak instead.

      • I agree, if you had a moderate Democrat with integrity who was not an establishment hack, Democrats would have won.

        Problem is, no such beast exists. Your team even kept Pelosi on. You never learn.

  • geraldcuvillier

    Me sick? Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    • I am Gatekeeper

      Real Liberalism died decades ago. This mutation is more along the lines of the Jim Jones Cult. They make the mentally ill look quite sane.

      • Caddisfly

        Coming from a fascist like you I actually take that as a compliment.

        • I am Gatekeeper

          Acknowledging your condition is a good first step. If you still have anyone in your life who cares about you or you opinions, give them the keys to your liquor cabinet and call the Snowflake anger management hotline!

          • Caddisfly

            I have not melted over any of this Herr Schmidt or whatever fascist name you have, I will resist and fight you on everything, because I have right on my side and you have hate on yours. The American people may not quite be dumb enough for drumpf to sucker them much longer, a large percentage like you are, but it is my hope that the rest wake up from the stooper they are in and put an end to this madness. And if not, as Thomas Jefferson said ” The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants”. Since you and drumpf are in league with the Russians I guess we know you are not patriots, so I guess that only leaves one option.

          • I am Gatekeeper

            I’m going to assume you voted for Obama (twice) and the criminal Cankles. And you have the gall to call someone else a fascist and a traitor. Your nothing but a deluded useful idiot. You’ve got 13 days left to use your FascistCare. Pay your $10,000 deductable and get some help. Read the Constitution while your in therapy; you and your like minded comrades have spit on it long enough. Your illness certainly is not patriotism. F.Y.I…You and the Russians can kiss my Patriotic A$$.

          • Caddisfly

            Awe look at the wittle snowflake melting. Yes i voted for Obama twice and would have a third time if I could, Hillary yes but only because it was her or the end of the world as we know it. As far as Obamacare, it may be around a lot longer than you think, at least 6 GOP senators are balking on the repeal. And now we get to pay for a wall because Mexico is giving us a big FU. Drumpf can play his games at home but the rest of the world is laughing at the Cheetos clown. Maybe his master Putey can get them in line but drumpf and his little pathetic tweets will not.

          • I am Gatekeeper

            The rot that has infected the very foundation of our Republic is the ‘Progressive’ sickness that Thomas Jefferson warned us about in your above quote. Stick to quoting Saul Alinsky…………………your embarrassing yourself. Hopefully, the Adults that are taking over can begin to undo the damage that the dangerously incompetent buffoons that you idolize have inflicted on our country.

          • Caddisfly

            Never read Alinsky myself, spent most of my early years reading Paine, Dumas, Voltaire, Sabatini and Dickens. I guess though to an Ayn Rand person like you these people are just communist rabble rousers.

    • Caddisfly

      Awe isn’t that cute you are quoting Limbaugh, I would not expect an original thought from a parrot like you.

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  • geraldcuvillier

    Aw, isn’t that cute that you keep quoting your Marxist professor. Limbaugh did not say that quote, Michael Savage did.

    • reggiewhitefish

      Isn’t his name Michael Weiner?

    • Rhett the Butler

      He was born Michael Wiener and changed it to Savage.

  • geraldcuvillier

    You are confused Reggie, Wiener is your hero.

  • Rhett the Butler
  • geraldcuvillier

    The Martians did it.

    • Rhett the Butler

      This explains a lot about you.

  • geraldcuvillier

    I know you are ashamed of your family name also Rhett, that is why you hide behind a false name because you have no courage.

    • Rhett the Butler

      Another fact free assertion.

  • geraldcuvillier

    It does explain something about me. It explains that I do not believe any of the lying DNC operatives like yourself.

    • Rhett the Butler

      Except I’m not a DNC operative. There you go again, lying.

  • geraldcuvillier

    It is an undeniable fact that you hide behind a false name because you have no courage.

    • Rhett the Butler

      I could call myself Andrew Bridges ( a real name, just not mine) and you wouldn’t know the difference.

      Who was Publius? Did Publius lack courage? How about Ben Franklin’s pseudonyms? Anonymous commentary is a time-honored practice.

      Quit your sniveling, old man.

  • geraldcuvillier

    You still have no courage.

    • Rhett the Butler

      Liar.

  • geraldcuvillier

    You are no Benjamin Franklin, more like Karl Marx.

    • Rhett the Butler

      You silly.

  • Rhett the Butler

    This should be fun to watch as it plays out.
    ===========

    “A dossier making explosive โ€” but unverified โ€” allegations that the Russian government has been โ€œcultivating, supporting and assistingโ€ President-elect Donald Trump for years and gained compromising information about him has been circulating among elected officials, intelligence agents, and journalists for weeks.

    The dossier, which is a collection of memos written over a period of months, includes
    specific, unverified and potentially unverifiable allegations of contact between Trump aides and Russian operatives, and graphic claims of sexual acts documented by the Russians. CNN reported Tuesday that a two-page synopsis of the report was given to President Barack Obama and Trump.

    Now BuzzFeed News is publishing the full document so that Americans can make up their own minds about allegations about the president-elect that have circulated at the highest levels of the US government.”

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.qtdPAAez#.liGX00qK

  • geraldcuvillier

    And you call me a conspiracy theorist.

  • geraldcuvillier

    Then have your DNC handlers release it to the public.

    • Rhett the Butler

      What DNC handlers? There you go again, making up your own conspiracy theories.

  • geraldcuvillier

    You already admitted that you are a DNC operative and your job is to counter every thing I say.

    • Rhett the Butler

      Show me where I did any such thing. Liar.

  • geraldcuvillier

    Yep! Just like the Clintons. Deny, deny, deny and then lie, lie,lie.

    • Rhett the Butler

      I knew you couldn’t back up what you said. Keep lashing out in desperation.

  • montanaeasy56

    What will be ironic is when the stories about Trump allegedly being caught in compromising situations prove out, the red team members will be hollering the loudest, NOT ABOUT THE CONTENT OF THE LEAKED INFORMATION, but about WHO was able to hack into our business. The whole dialogue will be changed….but then they’ll blame the previous President and the DNC operatives.. Funny times, they be acoming.

  • geraldcuvillier

    Me in desperation? You democrats are the ones lashing out in desperation, doing everything you can to overthrow the last election. Waaah!

    • Rhett the Butler

      That was Jill Stein-Green Party. Pay attention.

  • geraldcuvillier

    You are not paying attention, that was democrats out in the streets. There are not enough Stien supporters to fill a Volkswagen.

    • Rhett the Butler

      Protesting the results in the streets is not the same as “to overthrow the last election”.

  • geraldcuvillier

    That is your end goal.

    • Rhett the Butler

      Hardly my goal. You must have missed the news a few days ago about the EC voted having been accepted by Congress.

  • geraldcuvillier

    I just read a report that the alt-left is planning a revolt in Washington DC on inauguration day. They want to have chaos and rebellion all over the country. That sounds like an overthrow to me.

    • Rhett the Butler

      The Women’s March on Washington? Is that what has you all wee-weed up now? Are you scared of women, Frenchy? Wimp.

      Now we know who wears the pants in your family, and it isn’t you.

      There is no such thing as the alt-left. Never has been.

  • geraldcuvillier

    You are part of the alt-left. No it is not women and I am not afraid of anything you leftist try to do. I know you are all without honor and courage.

    • Rhett the Butler

      Wrong again, dummy.

      The Womenโ€™s March on Washington will convene on Saturday, 10:00 am, January 21, 2017.

      The starting point will be the intersection of Independence Avenue and Third Street SW, near the U.S. Capitol (see map below).

      The Womenโ€™s March on Washington is a grassroots effort comprised of dozens of independent coordinators at the state level. The effort is helmed by four national co-chairs and a national coordinating committee who are working around the clock to pull it all together.

      https://www.womensmarch.com/event-details/

      These marches are taking place all over the country and the world. And there will thousands of men joining them in solidarity.

      https://www.womensmarch.com/sisters

  • geraldcuvillier

    I am not wrong, you have no courage or honor.

    • Rhett the Butler

      Yep. you are, consistently. You wouldn’t know courage or honor if it bit you on the shoulder trying to get to your flabby old tushie.

  • geraldcuvillier

    There you go again hitting rock bottom with your disgusting comments. You just cannot climb out of your slime hole. You are a fine one to comment on honor and courage after your traitorous trip to communist Cuba. I hear there are some vacant cells at GITMO now that the Muslim in Chief has released most of the terrorist to kill Americans again. The facilities there are better than you will find in the rest of Cuba.

    • Rhett the Butler

      Being a tourist is not traitorous.

      There never should have been any cells in GItmo for other than US troops violating the UCMJ. Shrubya made up rules of laws out of whole cloth to deny people their human right to a fair trial.

  • geraldcuvillier

    You are a twisted individual.. These are hardened terrorist and your boy Obama is turning them out to kill more Americans. If we are lucky, maybe they will get you next time.

    • Rhett the Butler

      They have not been tried in a court of law.

  • geraldcuvillier

    They were taken prisoner in the heat of battle. Of course you will go over the cliff defending the enemies of America. Go back to Cuba!

    • Rhett the Butler

      Your attempt at historical revision is as dysfunctional as everything else you think you know.

  • geraldcuvillier

    You have no concept of reality much less history.

    • Rhett the Butler

      LOL!

  • geraldcuvillier

    You would be funny Rhett if you were not so pathetic.

    • Rhett the Butler

      ROFLMAO!